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Post by Stephen77 on Dec 15, 2012 15:45:08 GMT -6
The Simpsons (Classic)Total Seasons Aired: Nine Total Episodes: 203 Discuss Seasons 1 to 9 of one of the most beloved sitcoms of all-time and pretend most of the last 10+ seasons was a different show entirely.
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Post by enemynarwhal on Dec 15, 2012 16:26:30 GMT -6
I want to talk about season 15.
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Post by captblicero on Jan 11, 2013 6:31:00 GMT -6
The Simpsons are, quite, simply, a comedy institution. The show has surpassed the incredible mark of 500 episodes, and while most of those are in weak seasons for nearly a decade the show was the high watermark for television comedy. Quick guide to the seasons: 1: A little rough and off tonally from the series, but there are still great moments. 2: Rounded into shape as the Simpsons people would come to love. 3: Becomes the classic Simpsons. Not as silly and flat-out hilarious at its peak, but lots of great moments with the family. 4: Popular choice for best season. More unhinged with episodes crammed with jokes. 5: The other popular choice for best season. Somehow got zanier. 6: Like season 5, but not as consistent. 7: Underrated season a little more grounded than the last two with many classic episodes. 8: Maybe not as strong as season 7, but still prime Simpsons. 9: Generally regarded as outside the classic era, but it's still very good. 10: Inconsistent. The Simpsons noticeably declined at this point, but there are a handful of worthwhile episodes. 11 and on: The wilderness. Good luck navigating these seasons. There are some gems out there, but it's mostly a morass of disappointment and mediocrity.
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Post by Stephen77 on Jan 22, 2013 13:38:29 GMT -6
It's been a while since I've watched the entirety of Season 6, so I couldn't say if it is less consistent than Season 5 or not, but it has some of my absolute favourite episodes of the series, including "And Maggie Makes Three", "Homer Badman", "Homer the Great", "Homie the Clown", "Bart vs. Australia", "Lisa's Wedding", "Lemon of Troy" and probably the best Treehouse of Horror episode.
I also think that, at times, it's perhaps a little more grounded than Season 5. "And Maggie Makes Three", "Lisa's Wedding", and "Lisa on Ice", for example, all have a lot of heart.
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Post by Stephen77 on Jan 28, 2013 9:17:05 GMT -6
Also, while Season 7 and 8 are certainly more grounded and contain less of the zany antics of the previous three seasons, as you said, I seem to recall that they experiment a lot more with the format of the show as well. Thus, we end up getting episodes like "El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer (The Mysterious Voyage of Homer)", "Homer's Enemy", and "22 Short Films About Springfield". Mind you, I may be misremembering as it has been a while since I've watched these seasons in their entirety.
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Post by captblicero on Jan 28, 2013 17:11:38 GMT -6
The showrunners for season 7 and 8 expressed a desire to ground the series and wanted to emulate season 3 of the Simpons and go back to family stories. However, they also wanted to be fresh with storytelling and wanted to do two experimental episodes a season, like Ej Viaje or 22 Short Films. Season 6 is more grounded than I remember, but Mirkin was the showrunner there and he was a primary force behind the insane sitcom Get a Life. Seasons 7 and 8 had deliberate attempts at sandbox creativity, using the show as a playground for writing at certain times, while season 5 and 6 were just flat out weird in some places like the sugar plot or Homer in space.
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Post by For Getting Sarek Honor on Nov 30, 2013 13:27:47 GMT -6
So here's FSC's take on The Simps (I'm pretty sure that's the name). I started out on TV reruns and talking about the show with friends. I began watching new episodes on TV at Season 11 or 12, eventually becoming a regular viewer, and I kept that up until Season 22. So that was a decade of new Simpson watching, none of it during the Classic era, so maybe take that as a disclaimer. Anyway, the main way I became introduced to the show was via DVD when I was in probably 5th grade, specifically the gift of a DVD of Season 2, which became my religion. Season 2 stands apart from the rest of the entire series by building on the simplicity and intimacy of Season 1, becoming more sure of itself and more emotionally impactful, with many episodes that could melt even the stoniest heart and still make me tear up. Yes, later seasons sometimes reach this beauty and are also funnier, but the quieter, intentionally less funny Season 2 is, I think, more concerned with plucking heartstrings, and more adept at it, than any other season. My gooey feelings for it could certainly be attributed to its being my only method of access to The Simpsons for so long, though. I got Season 4 later on and I loved it, but it didn't touch 2's place in my heart. Eventually I acquired more seasons and moved on. I'd probably cite 7 or 8 as my favorite today. Season 1 - Great TV, cartoony animation Season 2 - A masterwork of emotion in comedy Season 3 - A fantastic season of TV that marks the first big Simpsons shift, to the laugh-a-minute goof fest with a ton of heart that we know and love Season 4 - Better than Season 3 Season 5 - Better than Season 4 [ EDIT: Better than Season 3 but not as good as 4] Season 6 - Better than Season 5 [ EDIT: And also better than 4? Does anyone care anymore?] Season 7 - Better than Season 6 Season 8 - As good as Season 7 (which is to say, transcendent) Season 9 - As good as Season 5 or so, except starting to be less laugh-out-loud and instantly memorable [ EDIT: I realize I changed my thoughts on 5 but not my wording on 9, which I stand by with my revised 5 opinion] Season 10 - As good as Season 9, except now the emotional stuff is less consistently spot-on, too I don't think I'm allowed to talk about later seasons. There's also a movie that I really like.
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Post by Stephen77 on Nov 30, 2013 13:39:33 GMT -6
I haven't re-watched Season 7 and 8 in so long so I never really have an opinion on them in these discussions. I've been working my way through Season 6 recently though and I agree with putting it above Season 5, but not Season 4. I feel like Season 4 balances the rapid fire jokes and zany antics with the more heartfelt moments the best of any season. For that reason, it's probably my favourite season of television.
However, I do prefer 6 to 5 because while 5 may be the funniest season of the show for me, 6 returns some of the groundedness of the earlier seasons. You get stories like "Lisa's Rival" or "Bart's Girlfriend" and I felt like those types of stories were lost in the zaniness of Season 5.
And I definitely get what you're saying about Season 2. What episodes of television pluck at the heartstrings quite like "Lisa's Substitute" (probably my favourite episode of the entire series) and "Bart Gets an F"?
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Post by For Getting Sarek Honor on Nov 30, 2013 13:45:13 GMT -6
The lack of frequency with which I revisit seasons before 6 may cause me to inaccurately characterize how well 3-5 balance emotion and zaniness.
And I watch "Bart Vs. Thanksgiving" every Thanksgiving, but it still made my eyes watery just the other day.
The main point is that this series was literally unbelievably excellent and I want to marry it.
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Post by Stephen77 on Nov 30, 2013 13:54:14 GMT -6
Re-watch Season 4 when you get the chance, dude! Just about every episode is a classic.
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Post by davethedouchebag on Nov 30, 2013 13:55:45 GMT -6
Season 4 feels almost decadent in terms of how much pleasure each episode brings. This is true of 5 and 6 to a lesser degree, but not even they can match the consistency of Season 4.
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Post by Dr Regina Phalange on Dec 1, 2013 0:43:53 GMT -6
So am I the only person who prefers Season 5 to Season 6?
Season 4 is probably my favourite season that I've seen so far (I've seen up to season 6), and it's easily the 2nd best TV season I've ever seen. (Behind Arrested Development Season 2.) To me it combines the heart of season 2 (my 2nd favourite season) with the zaniness of seasons 5 and 6.
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Post by Stephen77 on Dec 1, 2013 0:45:37 GMT -6
So am I the only person who prefers Season 5 to Season 6? Season 4 is probably my favourite season that I've seen so far (I've seen up to season 6), and it's easily the 2nd best TV season I've ever seen. (Behind Arrested Development Season 2.) To me it combines the heart of season 2 (my 2nd favourite season) with the zaniness of seasons 5 and 6. Season 5 > Season 6 would be the consensus opinion.
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Post by Dr Regina Phalange on Dec 1, 2013 19:57:48 GMT -6
Huzzah!
It's nothing against season 6 - Maggie Makes Three, Lisa on Ice and Who Shot Mr Burns are all favourite of mine, but I feel the show is loosing a bit of its emotional rooting.
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Post by davethedouchebag on Dec 1, 2013 23:21:06 GMT -6
The show is definitely a fair bit zanier than it once was, but I don't think it starts losing its emotional rooting full stop until a few seasons later.
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Post by Stephen77 on Dec 2, 2013 9:16:35 GMT -6
The show is definitely a fair bit zanier than it once was, but I don't think it starts losing its emotional rooting full stop until a few seasons later. Yeah, Season 9 really.
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Post by For Getting Sarek Honor on Dec 7, 2013 3:01:03 GMT -6
I'm re-watching The Simpsons Season 4 at everyone's behest, Part IUnshaken faith 1. "Kamp Krusty" Written by David M. Stern; Directed by Mark Kirkland It's easy to see why James Brooks wanted to make this episode into a movie. There's nothing about the story that's particularly begging to be lengthened, but the approach is very cinematic. I watched this episode on a screen that badly distorted the colors, so I think that affected my enjoyment of it. I knew I was immersed in hilarity, but I didn't laugh that much. Also, this episode's kind of low on story. They just go to camp and it's outlandishly horrible. But it's funny, and Homer and Marge get some real romance on at home, too. Line that I'm choosing to quote here: "Gentlemen...to evil." Most deceptive line: "What do you think, I just slapped a clown suit on some wino?" (Both courtesy of the mysterious Mr. Black) 2. "A Streetcar Named Marge" Written by Jeff Martin; Directed by Rich Moore Wow, this episode is really brutal to Marge and it humanizes her in a big way. A lot of TV housewives seems to live almost entirely for their husbands and children, but here we are being made acutely aware of it, and what's more, Marge is being made aware of it, and further still, she basically accepts it. She just needs her husband to be a little more supportive. The ending, where Homer sees a couple parallels between himself and Stanley, is actually true to life in how it only gestures at some redemption for Homer without him spelling out "I will be a better husband from now on." As a fan of The Planet of the Apes musical in "A Fish Called Selma," I was surprised at how good the songs were in "Oh Streetcar!" Music and lyrics is one of the many, many things The Simpsons did well. My line I'm picking: "I'm not an easy man to work for. While directing Hats Off to Chhhanukkah, I reduced more than one cast member to tears. Did I expect too much from fourth-graders? The review "Play Enjoyed by All" speaks for itself." Peppiest line: ♫ "You can always depend on the kindness of strangers!" ♫ 3. "Homer the Heretic" Written by George Meyer; Directed by Jim Reardon As I was watching this one I thought to myself "How many TV families do we ever see going to church?" George Bush 1 may have thought American families should emulate the Waltons over the Simpsons, but The Simpsons should get some credit for not being afraid to be a little goody-goody in a cynical TV-scape. My biggest nitpick with this deserved classic is that, after spending the whole time making excellent points about why you shouldn't go to church, it ends up with Homer going again in the end. Although it's a very nice sentiment that God didn't ignite Homer's house, but was rather working in the hearts of his neighbors. Look at that last sentence. What the fuck show was George Bush watching? My line: "Everyone is stupid except me." (I say this to myself way more often than I should.) Most analytical: "Moe is their leader." He's so comfy. 4. "Lisa the Beauty Queen" Written by Jeff Martin; Directed by Mark Kirkland Homer and Lisa bonding gets to me, and this is a perfect episode. My only possible qualm is that Lisa doesn't say anything to the effect that appearances should not define girls and how they see themselves, although that's implied a little in how she becomes empowered by her activism. Another great thing about this one is the fantastical streak that runs through it, starting with the very opening where Skinner, normally docile and haunted by his experiences in Vietnam, uses his Green Beret training to kick some ass and even has the dry, cool wit of an action hero. And of course there's Bart's utterly unexplainable turn as the perfect beauty contest coach. Then Homer's tip about complimenting women works like magic for him and Bart. Bob Hope(!!) even shows up, makes an Apocalypse Now-inspired exit, and asks to be put down by a boat show. The Little Miss Springfield scepter and tiara being partially melted by lightning for the whole rest of the episode is a really funny touch. My line: ♫ "Hey there blimpie boy, flyin' through the sky so fancy free!" ♫ (Of course.) Cutest: "I'm an ugmo." 5. "Treehouse of Horror III" Written by Al Jean & Mike Reiss, Jay Kogen & Wallace Wolodarsky, and Sam Simon & Jon Vitti; Directed by Carlos Baeza Solid Halloween ep. The doll story gets off to a great start ("Can I go now?") before becoming merely amusing, although I like the progress of Krusty's marriage with the Malibu Stacy doll. Mr. Burns' kookiness is my favorite part of the King Kong story, which is again mostly just fine. The zombie one is where things really heat up. The first two stories ending with that Love, American Style heart and music is such a funny and off-beat touch that I feel like it would fit in somewhere like Adult Swim today. What do you think?My line: "We wouldn't think of going without the bait-- uhh, that is, the bait-thing beauty. The bathing beauty! Heh heh. I covered that up pretty well!" Most inexplicably indignant: "That's a lie and you know it!" 6. "Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie" Written by John Swartzwelder; Directed by Rich Moore This is a good exploration of Bart's badness, its most probable cause (Homer's pushover parenting) and a Dickensian look into his possible futures. It's fun to see such a cartoonishly misbehaved kid like Bart get some real-world tough loving. This ep. is full of funny lines, and I must compliment the direction. It couldn't have been easy to adapt Itchy & Scratchy to 1920s and 1940s styles, but they look great. I also really dug the animated cinematography in shots like the transistion from the disco ball to Marge's head, Jasper's gun coming into view ("Well, well, if it isn't the tooth fairy"), and Maggie driving toward the camera. It was nice to hear the "Itchy & Scratchy" theme reworked a little to fit as regular Simpson background music during the line scene. ("I regret nothing!" Such defiance in the face of death.) Lisa's comparison of Bart to a "Tennessee Williams heroine" isn't the first glimmer of continuity I've seen within this season. My line: Homer, on Bart: "Oh yeah. That guy." Most reverent: "Time really flies when you're reading...the Bible?!!" I mean, To Be Continued...
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Post by sll03 on Jan 5, 2014 20:07:11 GMT -6
I sadly do not have much to add as I'm a newbie Simpsons fan (currently only a quarter of the way into Season 3) but heavens to Betsy, the references thus far are fantastical. Every episode is both a story and a pop culture quiz! (Yes, I find quizzes fun; do not judge me.)
Favourite Episodes 1. Bart Gets an F 2. Lisa's Substitute 3. The Way We Was 4. Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington 5. The Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire
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Post by humbugnarwhal on Jan 5, 2014 20:14:42 GMT -6
I sadly do not have much to add as I'm a newbie Simpsons fan (currently only a quarter of the way into Season 3) but heavens to Betsy, the references thus far are fantastical. Every episode is both a story and a pop culture quiz! (Yes, I find quizzes fun; do not judge me.) Favourite Episodes1. Bart Gets an F 2. Lisa's Substitute/quote] I don't have any opinions after those two but those two are my favorites of seasons 1-3 so agreeabuddies! Bart Gets an F is basically perfect minus the happy ending, which is the only part of the episode I can't identify with. Also you left tinychat just as I was christening you Saint Nutters. I need to inform you of this now because I'll expect you to respond to that name later.
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Post by Stephen77 on Jan 5, 2014 20:19:35 GMT -6
I sadly do not have much to add as I'm a newbie Simpsons fan (currently only a quarter of the way into Season 3) but heavens to Betsy, the references thus far are fantastical. Every episode is both a story and a pop culture quiz! (Yes, I find quizzes fun; do not judge me.) Favourite Episodes1. Bart Gets an F 2. Lisa's Substitute 3. The Way We Was 4. Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington 5. The Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire Ooooo if you think the show is a pop culture quiz now, I can't wait until you get further into the show.
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Post by Stephen77 on Jan 5, 2014 20:20:45 GMT -6
Also, Narwhal needs to learn how to quote, clearly.
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Post by humbugnarwhal on Jan 5, 2014 20:25:55 GMT -6
Also, Narwhal needs to learn how to quote, clearly. On a side note I like to eat little boy butts. An adult woman is good sure but give me a five year old male child and I will eat his butt all day long. Little boys are the best. We all love little boys in Newfieland Thumbs up! Wow Stephen, you should talk. Clearly you have more issues to work through than I do.
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Post by sll03 on Jan 6, 2014 18:50:09 GMT -6
Also, Narwhal needs to learn how to quote, clearly. On a side note I like to eat little boy butts. An adult woman is good sure but give me a five year old male child and I will eat his butt all day long. Little boys are the best. We all love little boys in Newfieland Thumbs up! Wow Stephen, you should talk. Clearly you have more issues to work through than I do. Now Narwhal, play nicely. Since this is a Simpsons thread, what would Bart think of your behaviour? Actually, he would definitely approve. Probably give you a high five, too. But still. What was my point? Oh well, I forget it now. Just go clean your room and eat your vegetables.
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Post by sll03 on Jan 6, 2014 18:54:03 GMT -6
Duly Noted; I shall henceforth respond to the moniker "Saint Nutters" on command. I am slightly perplexed by the "Saint" part, however. "Nutters" makes perfect sense because I'm a loon, but "Saint" seems rather out of place.
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Post by For Getting Sarek Honor on Jan 6, 2014 22:44:55 GMT -6
The Cosmic FSC Re-Watch of The Simpsons Season 4...Goes On"Whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh!" 7. “Marge Gets a Job” Written by Bill Oakley & Josh Weinstein; Directed by Jeff Lynch Marge gets a job, but it appears the universe prefers her as the downtrodden housewife of “A Streetcar Named Marge.” Not only does she find employment at her husband’s place of business, she also inspires the lust of their boss as if she were the first woman to ever work there. I thought Marge should have been more upset about being fired for such sexual harassment-y reasons, but I guess she’s more likely to stand for up others and for causes than she is for something that would benefit herself. The Bart-crying-wolf subplot is clever if a little thin, and I love Willie’s intimidation of the wolf. And of course there’s delightfully wacky moments that only this show could pull off, like the giant irradiated Curies and a parody of a song from one part of Citizen Kane. Also, are these the first hints of a startling connection between Marge and a certain former president? (Shh!) ¡Exciting new feature! A visual gag that I’m singling out for mention: Seeing the female plant employee who stares vacantly and drinks liquor at work is darkly comic enough the first time, but when we see her again later with the goofy moose antler hat on as “What’s New Pussycat?” blares, it’s superb. (The guy with the shotgun, on the other hand, while still funny, is a little too close to home these days.) My line: Lionel Hutz, on why it’s okay to take a belt of Scotch at 9:30am: “Yeah, but I haven't slept in days.” Most instructive: “Now parge the lath!” (Phil Hartman was straight funny as hell, yo.) 8. “New Kid on the Block” Written by a little known scribe named Conan O'Brien (wait, I think I have actually heard of him); Directed by Wes Archer Bart falls in love and Homer sues the Frying Dutchman for refusing to give him literally all he can eat. One was inevitable, the other, a really clever look at truth in advertising. Sara Gilbert is good as Laura Powers, the exact kind of sassy and gently badass older girl that Bart would fall for. His one-sided romance should be very familiar and a little moving to anyone who’s ever been or known a 10-year-old boy. This ep. features the first appearance of the Old Sea Captain, and of course there are few characters this seemingly one-note and ridiculous that the show won’t turn into longstanding Springfield local color. Laura’s mom Ruth would also play an important role in episodes to come. Things to love about this one include the horrible circus freak names that Homer is called for his appetite, and, in a mild proto-“Scott Tenorman Must Die” move on Bart’s part, Jimbo being ashamed of being afraid of a knife-wielding maniac (who, as they usually do, shows us the way). Visual gag: I’m gonna go with the moose eating from the trash can, but only because of the Northern Exposure music. And Bart’s fantasy dancing sequence is really nice. My line: “What's this? Wire hangers. Expired medicine. Old newspapers! Okay, Homer, stay calm. Just quietly get this stuff inside your house.” Most relieving: “Uh-oh, my heart just stopped. Ah, there it goes.” 9. “Mr. Plow” Written by Jon Vitti; directed by Jim Reardon After Marge spends the last two episodes finding out what her husband actually does at work (as little as possible) and being ashamed of what he eats (as much as possible), it’s not surprising that “Mr. Plow” finds Marge turned on by a Homer who takes initiative. Her newfound kink of making love to Homer while he’s wearing the Mr. Plow jacket is funny and makes for a super sweet, and sexy—super sexy sweet—ending. This episode’s no slouch before that, either. Another ultra-classic, it’s packed to the rafters with fun lines, moments, and plot points. You also get quintessentially Simpsons weird and hilarious gags like the snowmen melting à la the Nazis in Raiders, a must-rewind joke that’s as quick as it is gut-busting. The show was really remarkable in its incorporation of an all-encompassing post-modern intertextuality that anticipated today’s hyper-hypertextual approach to discussing pop culture. Er, I mean… Simpsons funny. Visual gag: Them snowmen, although Adam West dancing and Homer kicking Grandpa are in the running. My line: Everything that comes out of Adam West’s animated mouth; it’s all solid gold. In the interest of picking just one: “There was. When I called you… 45 minutes ago.” Most controversial: “Yeah, they were gay.” (They had to fight network censors to keep that line in.) 10. “Lisa’s First Word” Written by Jeff Martin; Directed by Mark Kirkland Ho. Ly. Shit. Is this the cutest episode of television ever produced? There’s the family gathered around to hear a story (look at Bart and Lisa’s posture!!), Homer swinging his lunchbox and singing “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun,” little kid/baby versions of Bart, Lisa, Rod, and Todd, Baby Bart’s ‘beep’ on Homer’s nose, present Lisa saying “I wish we lived in the kitty house!” (Awwwww!), and Homer and Maggie’s moment at the end. Heart. Bursting. The character designs on the younger versions of everyone (and even the off-putting designs of Grandma Flanders and the hypothetical baby in Bart’s imagination) are fantastic. As if all that weren’t enough, the episode’s story is just as sweet. Marge’s Fretful Mother magazines are spot on (“Why Baby Can’t Read,” “Is Your Baby Too Cute?”), Krusty’s Olympic losses are sometimes fun filler, and Bart’s trials in his bed and at the Flanders’ are masterful. What was your first word?Visual gag: That spooky clown bed laughing! My line: “Iron helps us play!” Although all the things the heads floating around Bart say are great, as of course is, “Can’t sleep. Clown’ll eat me.” Most painful: “And if the Devil doesn’t like it he can sit on a tack!” “Ouch!” I know that’s two lines and they’re from a real song, but the Flanderses are great in this episode, and their singing is so sweet. "...at goofing off!!" 11. “Homer’s Triple Bypass” Written by Gary Apple & Michael Carrington [ ]; Directed by David Silverman This is one of my most viewed episodes of yesteryear (or so I surmised from knowing a lot of the lines right before they were spoken, especially during Burns’ fakeout-laden tirade against Homer) but damned if it dud’n always hit home. It does a good job of balancing serious consideration of Homer’s condition with the conceit that a hack doctor is performing the procedure for $129.95 with the help of an eight-year-old girl. Homer praying and Lisa and Bart’s messages to each other are the show at its most genuinely emotional. The fact that a cartoon character is getting heart surgery to begin with shows that The Simpsons weighs its characters’ health more seriously than most comedies. On the other hand, it treats its cops as buffoons and gives them a great song parody. Also, now Mr. Burns has caused Homer to have a heart attack not long after sexually harassing and then firing his wife. Visual gag: Edgar Allan Poe’s birthplace bursting into flames as the Hans Moleman-driven truck carrying it careens off the road. Also great are Patty’s little face slap and gaping mouth at the wax paper deal, Homer’s cartoony heart attack in Burns’ office, and the appearance of Mr. McGreg, with the accompanying rhyme. My line: “Questions! Questions! My whole scheme down the—I mean ask away.” Most inexplicably said aloud: “These gloves came free with my toilet brush!” 12. “Marge vs. the Monorail” Written by Conan O’Brien; Directed Rich Moore Here it is, the Silver Tuna. This episode’s first act has all the makings of an immortal mega-classic, from the Flintstones opening to deftly handled tonal shifts (always comedic, but drawing on various sources), to its closing big musical number. The second two acts aren’t quite as entertaining as the first, but it’s great to continue to see Lyle Lanley in smarmy, clueless action and Homer, Bart, and Leonard Nimoy’s adventure on the train. I liked Quimby and Wiggum’s authority-figures-in-an-action-movie feud quickly devolving into childish roughhousing. And is this the year of Marge or what?! This is the third episode of four in the season to have her name in the title, while Homer’s is only in two (Lisa: 3, Bart: 0, Selma: 1, Krusty: 2). The day is saved thanks to Marge’s detective work and Lanley’s questionable use of notebooks. Visual: The radioactive squirrel getting that acorn in its own special way. Other contenders are Springfield’s oldest tree falling on Jebediah Springfield’s birthplace and naturally going up in a fiery explosion (what does The Simpsons have against birthplaces?), the angry North Haverbrookians awaiting Lanley’s landing, the first appearance of Marge’s non-Batman scientist, and his later appearance, post-haircut. My line: “All those in favor of Grandpa Simpson’s plan for rebuilding Main Street, please—” Most inexplicably cheerful: “I don’t know why I leave this lying around.” I'll be back with the next five episodes soon! It's not like I'm stealing all of your money and going to Tahiti!
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Post by Stephen77 on Jan 7, 2014 15:00:32 GMT -6
I sadly do not have much to add as I'm a newbie Simpsons fan (currently only a quarter of the way into Season 3) but heavens to Betsy, the references thus far are fantastical. Every episode is both a story and a pop culture quiz! (Yes, I find quizzes fun; do not judge me.) Favourite Episodes1. Bart Gets an F 2. Lisa's Substitute 3. The Way We Was 4. Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington 5. The Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire Oh, I meant to ask: what are some of your favourite homages thus far? In Season Two, I've always really liked Homer and Maggie recreating the shower scene from Psycho.
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Post by Stephen77 on Jan 7, 2014 15:03:54 GMT -6
Other contenders are Springfield’s oldest tree falling on Jebediah Springfield’s birthplace and naturally going up in a fiery explosion (what does The Simpsons have against birthplaces?) I should note here that Conan loved random explosions that happen for no logical reason. And I must agree with him; they're always so very funny.
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Post by For Getting Sarek Honor on Jan 9, 2014 13:45:08 GMT -6
Other contenders are Springfield’s oldest tree falling on Jebediah Springfield’s birthplace and naturally going up in a fiery explosion (what does The Simpsons have against birthplaces?) I should note here that Conan loved random explosions that happen for no logical reason. And I must agree with him; they're always so very funny. Inceptiquote. I agree, too. And something about anticipating the impossible Season 4 explosions and knowing when they're gonna happen makes them still hilarious.
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Post by For Getting Sarek Honor on Feb 6, 2014 20:47:36 GMT -6
Season 4 feels almost decadent in terms of how much pleasure each episode brings. You make me feel like a natural reviewer, Jub-Jub! SIMPSON PLAN! Season 4 needs to be rewatched!
SIMPSON PLAN! Season 4 needs to be rewatched!
SIMPSON PLAN! Season 4 needs to be rewatched!(I'd like to see you do better.) Part 3, Episodes 13-17I'm choo-choo-choosing to write these! 13. "Selma's Choice" Written by David M. Stern; Directed by Carlos Baeza I'd like to thank DavetheDouchebag for his sentiment that I quoted above. Very well put, friend. Now, we all know that Dave is irrational and prone to over-exaggeration, but it was while revisiting this stretch of five episodes that I realized just how right he really is. Even an episode like this one, which I wasn't particularly looking forward to, is more or less packed wall-to-wall with great humor and/or earned pathos. You throw out the phrase "Duff Gardens" and any Simpsons fan worth their salt will know exactly what you mean, even if they don't know this one by name. Julie Kavner continues a great run and gives a veritable tour de force not just as Marge and Selma, but also as Patty, their mother Jacqueline, and the departed aunt Gladys. I especially enjoyed the back and forth rough-voiced murmuring between Marge and her sister. I was even really moved at the end when Selma sang to Jub-Jub, but I bet that's just me. (I should probably see a doctor.) I also love seeing Lisa as a little Bart-like hellion à la the early shorts. Finally, this episode corroborates that Marge and Homer get along perfectly and romantically when the kids are away, and shows us that they're still into Homer wearing costumes. Visual thing: The (d)evolution of Homer's increasingly grotesque party sub. (Accompanied by the great Marge line "Have you been eating that sandwich again?") My line: "This isn't my house." Moleman strikes out. Most parental: "Bart, be quiet! Lisa, drink the water!" 14. "Brother from the Same Planet" Written by Jon Vitti; Directed by Jeffrey Lynch This is actually the one where I thought about what Dave said. Everything about Bart being stranded at the soccer field after practice (a seriously sad situation) is funny, including Bart's shining message only reaching Milhouse. But it really heats up with Homer's dream of finding Bart's skeleton, whose skull falls off before Homer screams a series of question words to the heavens, until he wakes up and rushes out the door naked. I was still chuckling from this wildly funny sequence a minute later, when ice cream on Bart's head and Homer's face melting in Bart's imagination made me chortle anew. The whole plot of Bart getting a mentor from a Big Brothers-type organization and Homer getting a Little Brother out of revenge is such goofy fun, even if I could have done without most of the runner of Homer behaving like a jilted lover. Does the pseudo-romantic tone of those scenes rub anyone else the wrong way? Even though we actually end up seeing little of them, Tom and Pepi are good characters who leave an indelible mark. They wanted Tom Cruise for Tom, but there was really nobody like Phil Hartman (RIP to all the beautiful departed Phil H.es). The subplot of Lisa's addiction to the Corey Hotline provides some almost squirm-inducing moments to anyone who's struggled to cut down on something (be it looking at CZ posts, going on Tinychat, writing about The Simpsons, etc.) And you can't really blame Lisa; the hotline is just advertised so well: the magazine ad features Corey laying on a bed with a phone saying "Why won't she call?" Marge and Lisa have some nice little moments, and of course I loved Homer bonding with Bart by teaching him how to fight dirty. Visual: That really looks (and sounds) a lot like a real Ren & Stimpy cartoon. Line: "That's right. And who might you be?" --Bart's father, the drunken gambler Most sympathetic: "Heh heh heh, just like Oscar the Grouch!" 15. "I Love Lisa" Written by Frank Mula; Directed by Wes Archer Valentine's Day is my least favorite popularly-celebrated holiday, and people having creepy romantic obsessions and not being able to take a hint are one of my least favorite TV tropes, but this is Season 4 Simpsons and this is a great, classic episode. It's all handled very sweetly, from the "Choo-Choo-Choose You" Valentine, the detail of which makes it seem like a real children's Valentine, to the swinging at the end. Because I don't like that trope, I love Lisa getting up and yelling on live TV that she in fact does not intend to marry Ralph. It's rare to see an acknowledgement that President's Day comes right on the heels of V-Day. Rex, Springfield Elementary's resident thesbian, who seems to have been born for the part of JFK, is robbed of the role of George Washington, but Ralph gives an amazing performance by reaching into the depths of his dispair from being rejected. It's a nice message about productively channeling pain. For his part, Bart goes full Terminator-mode to access the John Wilkes Booth within. Visual: The grooved-out look of Krusty's show in the early 70s. Line: "Why are you doing this to me?" Bill & Marty's antics turn dark. Most dramatic: "My God man, I've watered her down as far as she'll go! I cannot water no more!!" The shyster 16. "Duffless" Written by David M. Stern; Directed by Jim Reardon Homer learns that he doesn't need alcohol to enjoy life. It's The Simpsons' very own "Mixology Certification," except I love it. After a DWI following a trip to the Duff Brewery, as hotly anticipated by Homer as Duff Gardens was for the kids, Homer finds himself without a license and Marge challenges him to give up drinking for a month. Homer's trials, court-appointed or otherwise, are both funny and a convincing portrait of a man being pushed to the edge. Meanwhile, Lisa is also driven to do something she otherwise wouldn't: be cruel to Bart, although he does deserve it. Before a month without Duff gives Homer the shakes, Bart convulses from merely trying to touch cupcakes in another Kubrick nod, this one with a really clever visual. I like how fully the hamster is utilized beyond Lisa's experiment, from being on Bart's lap like Blofeld's cat to showing up in Bart's own science fair submission, winning him a victory that was about as likely as the one in his dream earlier. This episode's closing moments, where Homer leaves Moe's to give Marge a ride on his bike as they sing "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head," is held up as a perfect classic-era ending, and rightly so. Visual: Bart in his red striped carnival suit, along with the hamster in a plane with a little flight outfit. Hon. Mention: The spot-on parody of beer advertisements. Line: "I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer." Most scientific: "That’ll learn him to bust my tomater." 17. "Last Exit to Springfield" Written by Jay Kogen & Wallace Wolodarsky; Directed by Mark Kirkland Another towering monument of a Simpsons episode. This one is absolute TV perfection, with great jokes and a resonant story that returns everything to the status quo in clever and organic ways. There's no big showtune number like "New Orleans" or "The Mediocre Presidents," but Lisa's protest song is fitting and catchy, and I can't get enough of her playing "Classical Gas" for Lenny. Mr. Burns is one of my favorite characters on the show, and this is another episode that serves him really well, with him being convinced that Homer is an ace negotiator as union head, he and Smithers running the plant themselves in a frolicsome manner, and finally becoming the Grinch when the strikers aren't deterred by him shutting off the power. Another hysterical pop culture riff is Lisa reacting to her new braces in the style of the Joker from Batman '89, which had only come out four years earlier. Very funny, very good shit. Visual: Lisa in the Sky in a non-copyright infringing version of Pepperland. (HATRED!) Line: *Gasps* "There is no God." Forget "DENTAL PLAN," this was the biggest laugh of the episode for me on this go-around. Most accusatory: "Why must you turn my office into a house of lies?!" Don't celebrate too much, I'm still coming back with one more of these things!
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Post by For Getting Sarek Honor on Mar 19, 2014 23:19:11 GMT -6
SIMPSONS SEASON 4 REWATCH THE FOURTH AND FINAL CHAPTER BY FORGETTING SARAH CONNOR ONLY ON THE COMMUNITY AV CLUB FORUMWait, why didn't Bart have to go to the hospital too? 18. "So It's Come to This: A Simpsons Clip Show" Written by Jon Vitti; Directed by Carlos Baeza So it's come to this: a Simpsons clip show. I've never fully understood why clip shows exist. Sure, they're a lot cheaper to produce than a full new episode, but you know what would be even cheaper? Not making an episode at all and just airing a rerun! Oh well; this episode, for one, more than justifies its existence with its completely clip-free first act, which is classic Simpsons all the way. The first act culminates in a moment I certainly couldn't do without, when Bart, thinking he's pulled a harmless April Fools' Day (another of my least favorite "holidays") prank on Homer, can't even finish exclaiming "April Fools!" before being blown back by a gaseous explosion that consumes the kitchen and eventually sends beer gushing out of the chimney. Even anticipating that moment can't stop it from being hilarious, although the biggest laugh for me this time was Homer's Springfield Gorge exploit from a "Bart the Daredevil" clip. It's interesting to see clips from the first three seasons alongside the new Season 4 material; Season 1 already seems like a primitive version of the show we're watching. I enjoy Bart and Grandpa's meta calling attention to the fact that it's a clip show ("And there's one Itchy & Scratchy cartoon I know we'll never forget..."); if there's one other show that could have pulled off a "Paradigms of Human Memory," it's The Simpsons. It's nice to see great little sequences like "Land of Chocolate" that work out of context, although it's also a reminder that even Simpson cutaway gags aren't complete non sequiturs. The worst part of this episode is that they chose to center the reminiscing around Homer being in the hospital in a season that already had the fantastic "Homer's Triple Bypass." The clips of Homer connecting with his kids from "One Fish, Two Fish, Blowfish, Blue Fish" are touching, but the setups in the hospital ring false compared to a similar scene in "Bypass." Jesus, this got really long for being about an episode I thought I'd have less to say about! Why I laugh? Visual: When Bark cranks the thermostat, the water in the fishbowl starts to boil, killing the fish, as melted vinyl oozes out of the record sleeves on the shelf. Line: "It's a good thing that beer wasn't shaken up any more, or I'd have looked quite the fool. An April Fool, as it were." Most fatherly: "Ahh! Kill it! Kill it!!" 19. "The Front" Written by Adam I. Lapidus (who is a real person and not a front); Directed by Rich Moore There are only so many ways I can say "this was a great, classic episode." Although it's pretty obvious that this episode ran short and had to be expanded, and some cracks in the pacing appear, I wouldn't trade "The Adventures of Ned Flanders" epilogue for anything. It's actually oddly fitting as a button on an episode about writing short-form animation. ("Cartoons have writers?" "Ehh, sort of.") The story provides an excuse to see some good Itchy & Scratchy--"Screams From a Mall," where Scratchy is beaten down by PETA-type protesters for wearing his own fur, is one of the best ever--and again to see the animators try a couple different styles with those weird clips at the awards show. I feel like Homer admitting he never graduated from high school and having to retake Remedial Science 1A should be a bigger deal than is made of it here (he does it so he can rightfully claim his ridiculously mocking "awards" from the reunion), but it's also nice to have kind of a big thing remain a subplot. Was making Homer a high school non-graduate a nascent move into "Homer is too dumb" territory? After previous episodes spent some good time with the theme, Marge's disappointment with Homer is downplayed here. Engaging to some extent with the life trajectories of all three generations of Simpsons, this episode reinforces that Bart and Lisa are the real brains of the family, despite their relative lack of either education or life experience. Visual: In a fantasy of Bart's early on, he steals Santa's sleigh at machine gunpoint and flies the reindeer off into the sky, and the way the jolly old elf turns away from the camera and looks up as Bart escapes with his sled is so goofily heartbreaking. Line: "That's right; I did the Iggy!" Most attentive: "Uh, sorry? I didn't catch any of that. And now I gotta go." Roger Meyers, Jr. cares about his writer s. "Merry Christmas, suckers!" 20. "Whacking Day" Written by John Swartzwelder (celebrated author of How to Get Rich Writing Cartoons); Directed by Jeffrey Lynch This is a singularly weird episode. It's certainly not the most bizarre the show would get during its golden years, but the material revolving around the titular holiday (May 10th, for all you calendar markers) makes for some odd, but very Springfield, content for a sitcom. However stupid the holiday may be, Homer's focused and macho dedication to it turns on Marge (of course!), who continues to shine, here homeschooling an expelled Bart and actually inspiring a zeal for learning in the boy. This comes to dovetail nicely with Lisa's attempts to put a stop to the Whacking Day festivities, not the first time she's stood in iconoclastic defiance of the majority, and not yet the best (that would be "Lisa the Vegetarian"). That story also wonderfully uses Barry "Anything, for a lady" White, who apparently asked to be in an episode. The show was good at taking a seemingly random guest star who had no reason to be in Springfield and making the most of their brief appearance, including, in this case, a very nice swirling shot around Barry's head while he's singing. Superintendent Chalmers makes his first appearance, and is a funny foil for Principal Skinner, one of my favorite characters, right off the bat (or Whacking Day club, as it were). Their chemistry, Willie finding a female counterpart to escort to his apartment building's pool, and Skinner locking the problem students in the basement make this a splendid Springfield Elementary episode, despite the short amount of time spent there. Visual: The kaleidoscope of color and only-visible-for-an-instant "POW" when the tractor slams into Chalmers' ass. Line: "Deformed?! Why didn't you say so? They should call this book Johnny Deformed!" Most responsible: "Then we ride these bikes to Mexico. And freedom, Willie, freedom!" 21. "Marge in Chains" Written by Bill Oakley & Josh Weinstein; Directed by Jim Reardon This is a masterpiece of simply breathlessly funny comedy from start to finish. It's also a pefect cap (give or take the flashy cavalcade-of-stars finale up next) to a sometimes Marge-centric season. When Marge is rather unjustly imprisoned for shoplifting, the Simpson household completely falls apart, predictably enough, but it's the way the whole town descends into utter chaos without her (and her marshmallow squares at the bake sale) that allows this to continue hilariously upping the ante late into the third act. Each act packs a lot of material in, and the opening with the whisper-quiet Juice Loosener and the unshootable Osaka Flu could have gone any number of directions. I Can't Believe They Invented It is a wonderful Troy McClure showcase, and, from talking to a bottle of bourbon (and his sponsor David Crosby), to removing his tie to "prove" Apu wrong, this may be the best episode ever for law-talkin' guy Lionel Hutz. Fittingly, Marge's brush with the law comes because she's being overworked by her ungrateful family. As nice as it is that the town rededicates a certain statue in Marge's honor, the most emotional moment comes earlier when Homer tells Marge how much he's gonna miss her while she's in prison. It's often easier to appreciate something or someone in their absence, as we all know. While Marge will never be as flashy as a Homer or Bart, there could be no Simpsons--or Simpsons--without her. To the Year of Marge! Visual: Ten minutes after Lisa suggests that the three of them can keep the house tidy if they all pitch in, the kitchen is a disaster zone with, among other hazards, something falling from the ceiling and an unattended fire raging in the open oven. The mysterious El Barto has already made his mark on the fridge. Line: "He's history's greatest monster!!" And not just out of obligation. That's an amazing moment. Most conflicted: "I'm cured! I mean, ouch!" The satire of overreliance on medication to solve all ills is brief but biting. 22. "Krusty Gets Kancelled" Written by John Swartzwelder; Directed by David Silverman And so my long, enjoyable, long journey of rewatching comes to a close. The season ends as it began, with Krusty, at whom the show loved to throw semi-deserved misfortunate, scrambling to do damage control. Luckily, this time no children's lives are in danger, although Krusty's pretty destitute himself. This episode's not as good as the last few, but it's still quite pleasant to see The Simpsons show off the clout they have in their ability to pull guest stars (and in much less time on the air than Krusty). Elizabeth Taylor returns for another one-word performance before she's finally allowed to say a whole sentence. Even Barry White's already back, and with his own sexy square on Springfield Squares. The Red Hot Chili Peppers are used and animated well. One thing I didn't catch until this time is Flea inexplicably raising his arms, throwing his head back, and screaming "MOOOE!" as if the man who had just tried to dupe them was an old friend. He's before my time, but I'm sure Johnny Carson deserves his zany portrayal as the world's greatest entertainer. Gabbo's ad campaign is a highlight as well, although you'd think some people would be disappointed that it turns out to just be a ventriloquist act. But he does have that hook, I suppose. We also get the animators yet again seamlessly aping another style. ("What the hell was that?!") As poignant and revelatory as the show can be, episodes like this serve to remind us what drew us in in the first place: pure dazzling entertainment. And the possibility that Luke Perry may smash his face into a brick wall. Well, send in the clowns; that just about wraps these up for me. Thanks so much for reading! I am You are the wind beneath your my wings! Visual: The animation on Johnny Carson spinning the 1987 Buick Skylark around and around above his head while he sings opera is extremely well done and almost CGI-looking. Line: "Everyone can enjoy that!" RHCP clean up their act. Most independent: "He'll tell us what to do!" Gabbo gives Homer something to believe in. (h/t to wallflower) Final verdict: Yeah, Season 4 is better than Season 5. Although it's been a while since I've seen that whole thing. I'm gonna watch it next. (And not do write-ups of every episode!) Worker and Parasite say "So long!"...I think.
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