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Post by captblicero on Feb 3, 2013 16:02:53 GMT -6
I'm just wondering if there's a consensus. There are some interesting choices that come to mind for me, but I want to see what other people say first.
And yes, the US Office.
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Post by affrosponge88 on Feb 4, 2013 1:01:08 GMT -6
The introduction of Sabre.
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Post by snowmania on Feb 5, 2013 11:53:35 GMT -6
God. I wanna say Sabre, too, but I feel like the Office has jumped a whole series of sharks. And the point past which the show steadily begins to go downhill, for me, is after the dissolution of the Michael Scott Paper Company. That was the last big storyline that I really liked, but they sure foundered trying to clean it up. Not long after that was when they made Michael and Jim co-managers, and then in order to fix that they introduced Sabre, which was even worse. That just opened the door to a wave of increasingly bizarre executives. I appreciate the show's efforts to shake things up from time to time, but it's tiresome when there are all these exterior threats and the officemates just become ever more cloistered and incestuous.
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Post by stingo on Feb 7, 2013 14:39:34 GMT -6
When Michael drove into the lake.
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Post by eric on Jun 15, 2013 0:06:29 GMT -6
I guess the singular "moment of no return" would be someplace in season 6 or 7. But I would say that it stopped being a top show after s5. Also that while there was a lot of really good stuff in seasons 3&5, it actually peaked episode-for-episode in s2.
For whatever reason, I really like the scene in "Dunder Mifflin Infinity" where Michael drives the rental car into the lake. I've seen people that I know (and myself at times) do things that stupid just out of a combination of being obstinate and confused. It's like when things get bad, the only thing to do is make them worse, or something.
Loki said the show had a big drop off after s3, and then another one after s5, and I would agree with that. The Michael Scott Paper Company arc, as wonderful as it was, arrived at a time when it was very much needed. There's really only maybe 5 episodes after s5 that I'd consider good enough to defend not ending the show at that point for.
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Post by snowmania on Jun 15, 2013 17:27:24 GMT -6
It's kind of interesting to me that the driving into the lake was a watershed moment (ha ha ha ha) in Michael's character for many people, i.e. that was the first time they really took it too far, and that was a big signal in the show's weakening. I always felt it was fairly consistent with his particular brand of naivete that verges into outright stupidity from time to time. Maybe it's just that there's something so charming about how he really believe that box is not going to lead him astray. I thought it had a pretty good payoff later, too, when he was explaining to Ryan how technology failed him.
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